Comments on: Moses & Jesus: Friends or Foes? (John 1.17)

By: Scott K

Scott K — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:02:17 +0000

Why is it that John says “No man has seen God at any time.” In the old testament God used to walk on earth and talk to people all the time. I may be incorrect, someone help me.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:34:59 +0000

Alex – With all due respect. You’ve apparently been seminary or “church” trained and are just speaking what you’ve been taught. The Torah = His instructions in righteousness. There is plenty of grace in the Torah. It’s the dictionary of all YHWH’s terms – that’s why the Berean’s measured everything against it. It’s the only Scriptures that Jesus and the disciples knew. Grace is all over the Torah. Jesus was the mediator and atonement though which grace applied to our redemption and salvation. But Jesus was at the creation, at Mt Sinai, and was our atoning sacrifice. As Deborah says, the Father and the Son were in alignment and could not say different things. All one faith, one covenantal message, one Atonement, one instruction in righteousness, one God. The “New” covenant in Jer 31 was the more accurately in the Hebrew “renewed” covenant (as with the cycle of the moon) the Torah is not done away with – it is written on our hearts. The fulfillment of the Torah was Jesus as the perfect (kept the Torah perfectly) sacrificial lamb. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be obedient. As Paul says, we are bond servants
and slaves to righteousness. We are redeemed and atoned for disciples, doing what the Master did = Keep the commands of God His Father. We can’t keep it perfectly for salvation, but as Paul says “Should we sin all the more that grace may abound? May it never be.” He was talking about keeping the Torah = the only definition of sin that Jesus and the disciples knew. I John 3, Romans 5:14.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:30:25 +0000

Alex – With all due respect. You’ve apparently been seminary trained (woefully antisemitic and narrow) and that’s all you know and still essentially Catholic. The Torah = His instructions in righteousness. There is plenty of grace in the Torah. It’s the dictionary of all YHWH’s terms – that’s why the Berean’s measured everything against it. It’s the only Scriptures that Jesus and the disciples knew. Grace is all over the Torah. Jesus was the mediator and atonement though which grace applied to our redemption and salvation. But Jesus was at the creation, at Mt Sinai, and was our atoning sacrifice. As Deborah says, the Father and the Son were in alignment and could not say different things. All one faith, one covenantal message, one Atonement, one instruction in righteousness, one God. The “New” covenant in Jer 31 was the more accurately in the Hebrew “renewed” covenant (as with the cycle of the moon) the Torah is not done away with – it is written on our hearts. The fulfillment of the Torah was Jesus as the perfect (kept the Torah perfectly) sacrificial lamb. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be obedient. As Paul says, we are bond servants
and slaves to righteousness. We redeemed and atoned for disciples, doing what the Master did = Keep the commands of God His Father. We can’t keep it perfectly for salvation, but as Paul says “Should we sin all the more that grace may abound? May it never be.” He was talking about keeping the Torah = the only definition of sin that Jesus and the disciples knew. I John 3, Romans 5:14.

By: Deborah

Deborah — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:37:02 +0000

With respect, why do you assume the quote means one was “better” than the other? Maybe one came to concentrate His teachings on Law, one on Grace. Is air better than water? Both are essential. Do you see you are making an interpretation here that is irrelevant? Just a heads up.

What if God is NOT in competition with “Himself” but sends guidance for us from time to time through Manifestations we call Prophets that can be compared with teachers in school? The teachers have all been to University, they are not better than each other, they just come at different points in the child’s maturity to teach her what she needs to know for that part of her life, right?

In ANY Holy Books do ANY Prophets EVER put each other down? No. They all praise the ones before. And they ALL foretell of another coming. Check it out. If you look at the big picture, it is the only thing that makes real sense. Seriously….this “My Daddy is bigger than your Daddy” stuff is just getting old. And it’s not helping. If you want to do good in the world….look for what unites us, my friend, not what separates us. Anything else just gets us back to the sorry state we are in right now. Peace.

By: Moses

Moses — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:42:56 +0000

Me and Jesus are not friends
it is actually impossible as he, nor i, never existed

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:23:10 +0000

Absolutely, you must not imply that the law gives grace. you are implying when you say that the grace gives greater grace than the law. I am sorry to tell you this, emphatically the law as you know the scriptures will not lift a finger to help. So there is no more grace in law. If you think
that the righteousnes of the law will save you or to do and believe that following the law in thers of what I do and what I avoid doing in light of the law will save you you are in error and therfore
teaching false doctrine. I want you to take your opinion and your theology out of the internet since you do not know what the verse in clearly stating. tell me when did the Law gives grace since you say that grace is greater grace. Your implication that the law has some grace is erroneous and false teaching. God will hold you accountable to you erroneous teaching.

By: amarjeet singh

amarjeet singh — Sun, 25 May 2008 02:45:50 +0000

they were friends and and are friends
amarjeet