Comments on: Whitecaps pretending to be oak trees http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/ "Take me out to the black. Tell 'em I ain't coming back." -- The Ballad of Serenity Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:13:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: mark http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68236 mark Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:11:40 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68236 Yes. Did my blog lead you to believe I was denying being part of a tradition? Don't understand how. Pretty sure I was claiming to belong to the real one. Yes. Did my blog lead you to believe I was denying being part of a tradition? Don’t understand how. Pretty sure I was claiming to belong to the real one.

]]> By: Darryl Hart http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68232 Darryl Hart Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:33:26 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68232 If FV claims to be Reformed, then is it not also claiming to be part of a tradition? If FV weren't, then there wouldn't be a controversy. Look, it's fine if folks aren't Reformed. I even have on non-Reformed friend. But simply dismissing questions about standing in relationship to a tradition is not going to help FV make the case that it's Reformed. If FV claims to be Reformed, then is it not also claiming to be part of a tradition? If FV weren’t, then there wouldn’t be a controversy. Look, it’s fine if folks aren’t Reformed. I even have on non-Reformed friend. But simply dismissing questions about standing in relationship to a tradition is not going to help FV make the case that it’s Reformed.

]]> By: mark http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68073 mark Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:21:21 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68073 No one needs to apologize. I was told about it but following that sort of thing on the web is something I don't do any more. I really could have blogged this for the last couple of years. And I've run into a the term "moral community" going back to a thread I won't link because I'll just get mad again. I just wanted you to know you couldn't site particulars and assume I had any idea what you are talking about. No one needs to apologize. I was told about it but following that sort of thing on the web is something I don’t do any more.

I really could have blogged this for the last couple of years. And I’ve run into a the term “moral community” going back to a thread I won’t link because I’ll just get mad again.

I just wanted you to know you couldn’t site particulars and assume I had any idea what you are talking about.

]]> By: Christopher Witmer http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68070 Christopher Witmer Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:15:02 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68070 How 'bout dat, I assumed the same thing as Ken did, obviously, since I quoted from Regno. I'm very sorry for making your post appear to be directed at that. How ’bout dat, I assumed the same thing as Ken did, obviously, since I quoted from Regno. I’m very sorry for making your post appear to be directed at that.

]]> By: Ken Christian http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68046 Ken Christian Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:54 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68046 Like the discussion in subject matter, i mean. Like the discussion in subject matter, i mean.

]]> By: Ken Christian http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68045 Ken Christian Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:12 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68045 Whoa, no way. Sorry, Mark. Your post looked so much like the discussion taking place there. Whoa, no way. Sorry, Mark. Your post looked so much like the discussion taking place there.

]]> By: mark http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68005 mark Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:44:55 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68005 I'm fine with people commenting on what they've seen on other websites, but for the record I haven't been to this debate at "Regno." I’m fine with people commenting on what they’ve seen on other websites, but for the record I haven’t been to this debate at “Regno.”

]]> By: Ken Christian http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-68002 Ken Christian Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:36:03 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-68002 I thing the whole "tradition" debate has really derailed the discussion on Regno. I hope they return to the specific topics at hand quickly. I thing the whole “tradition” debate has really derailed the discussion on Regno. I hope they return to the specific topics at hand quickly.

]]> By: Christopher Witmer http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-67987 Christopher Witmer Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:32:28 +0000 http://www.hornes.org/mark/2007/09/21/whitecaps-pretending-to-be-oak-trees/#comment-67987 Yeah, and it's frustrating to have to read from people arguing along such lines -- and they never really give a clear definition of what the tradition is, by the way -- it's all very nebulous -- that the FV is not Reformed because the starting point was not to view the Bible through the lens of the Reformed tradition [whatever that might be], but rather started [it is alleged] with their own interpretations of the Bible. Praise God for people who can respond to that whole red herring with: "Our faith involves new wine bursting old wineskins, losing our identity in order to save our identity, considering some traditions rubbish for the sake of what is truly lasting. This isn’t anti-traditional, but a notion of tradition that nonetheless remains open to the new things that God may be doing, recognizing that the dynamic of death and resurrection preserves everything good and true from the past as it is taken up into a renewed present." Yeah, and it’s frustrating to have to read from people arguing along such lines — and they never really give a clear definition of what the tradition is, by the way — it’s all very nebulous — that the FV is not Reformed because the starting point was not to view the Bible through the lens of the Reformed tradition [whatever that might be], but rather started [it is alleged] with their own interpretations of the Bible.

Praise God for people who can respond to that whole red herring with:

“Our faith involves new wine bursting old wineskins, losing our identity in order to save our identity, considering some traditions rubbish for the sake of what is truly lasting. This isn’t anti-traditional, but a notion of tradition that nonetheless remains open to the new things that God may be doing, recognizing that the dynamic of death and resurrection preserves everything good and true from the past as it is taken up into a renewed present.”

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